Previous posts:

  • Part 1 – Criminal Complaint
  • Part 2 – GhostExodus Videos
  • Part 3 – HVAC HMI Screenshots

Note: The language in the videos and quotes on this post have not been censored.  This may be not-safe-for-work, for some definitions of work.

In this post, we’ll take a look at some members of the online community’s reactions to Jesse “GhostExodus” McGraw’s arrest.  It’s not hard to find folks who think it’s a good thing, just look at most of the comments on these posts and other blogs/articles on the Internet.  On the “hacker” forums that I have seen with threads on the topic, the vast majority of members agree that GhostExodus went too far.  Since it’s more interesting to take a look at viewpoints you disagree with, I’m going to focus on reactions of people that feel that the alleged crimes are not all that serious.

There are a couple of entertaining YouTube videos that summarize this viewpoint.  The first one is from RamHat, who feels strongly enough about my involvement that I think it’s fair to give him some time here to state his case to you:

Quotes:

Don’t forget what this is about. It’s about video-fighting, it’s about debating, making pwnage videos, funny accounts.  It’s about having fun.  It’s not about hacking, and none of you guys can hack anyways…

GHOST is just a wild dude that made some poor choices

We all done stupid stuff before

This guy’s response is actually pretty entertaining towards the end:

Quotes:

I’m behind the whole Free Ghost Exodus Movement

..the type of shit that I heard in the video?  It’s like, that’s retarded.  So you’re saying someone hacked something and then controlled an air conditioning unit?  Was that really going to kill anyone if you turned off an air conditioner, or maybe even turn it lower?

He just wanted to prove that he could do it, because there’s a lot of people on here that talk a lot of B.S. about how they can do this and that

The running theme here is that some people don’t realize how serious of a crime this is.  You just can’t do things like this to prove a point or have fun.

On a different note, we have at least one remaining ETA member rattling sabres.  The following are comments from a couple of news articles:

If the numbers and their rate-of-change are to believed, by now there are 10′s, or possibly even 5′s of them left.

  25 Responses to “GhostExodus, the ETA, and a Control System Incident at Carrell Clinic (Part 4)”

  1. Sweet Jesus. I tried listening to RamHat’s video with only one earbud in and at first all I heard was crappy music. Turns out all his “voice” audio is in the left channel. Sheesh. Learn how to mix.

    I didn’t really *sluuuuuuuuuuurp* enjoy the *sluuuuuuuuuuuuuurp* second *sluuuuurp* *sluuuuuuuurp* *sluuuuuurp* video.

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  3. we are still here :)

  4. Hey thar, did your federally friends let you make that video to intimidate Mr ghosty? Oh you look so intimidating in that video, ohhhhh my oh my, what a big man. You made poo poo on my tv. Now I have wipe wipe for all teh dookie, dawwww.

  5. Hi PigsInBlankets,

    What video?

  6. Part 3 link above points to part 2

  7. Thanks for the tip, beakmyn!

  8. “wow, morons… You guys don’t realize that he wasn’t doing it just to be “1337″ he was doing it to prove that he could do it and this would have hurt ABSOLUTELY NO ONE! He wasn’t doing it to kill people off in a hospital or put them in serious pain/suffering- The people that
    I’ve known about him way before this all happened by the way.

    Some of you believe anything you read/hear on the internet or T.V. and it’s rather pathetic that any of you will buy into it as soon as you hear about it without even questioning it- assuming the source you heard it from is just correct no matter what, regardless of how blatant it is.

    you’re a raging faggot; no one ‘raised a red flag’ just like it said in the first video, he just ’snitched’ on him for things that I could go and look up on youtube or forums that I go to.
    I could find things like that, or even worse things than that, in a very short amount of time- seeing that I go to many forums (which are not private or hidden at all) where users post things like this regularly.

    I bet most of you just saw this on a blog or Google or some friend who saw it somewhere on the internet, etc. and just decided “hey, here’s my chance to hate on someone I don’t even know to pretend I’m 1337.”

  9. “Shit… it deleted part of my sentence in the first part of the comment:
    *It was about the people who constantly talk shit… Like the people that talk about this, saying shit and saying you are all ‘1337′* xD
    Just to prove that he could do it when most of the people that say they are ‘1337′ on the internet are mildly retarded and have terrible OCDs where they have to convince every last person in the world that they are cool in all aspects or they will die.

    … Anyone can talk shit online… Most of them can’t back it up.

    Oh, and before you go and say “It’s not hard to hack HVAC because blah blah blah…” Like I said, I’ve known him way before all of this and I’ve seen some of the things he can do.”

  10. Oh, just on to p of that, thought I would add… No, there is not only one left.
    Who is retarded enough to believe that hundreds of people were just gathered up and captured after this?
    That would prolly have made something like CNN or some other nation-wide news station if that were to happen

    If you seriously believe that anyone arrested for a crime (whether they did anything wrong or are actually guilty) should be tried and incarcerated for it- then you are as bad as any criminal… So don’t start with that shit.

  11. Thanks for sharing Das Licht!

  12. ghostexodus was stupid, he deserved it.

    good job.

  13. Poster above:
    No, not good job.
    Someone already said it above.
    “If you seriously believe that anyone arrested for a crime (whether they did anything wrong or are actually guilty) should be tried and incarcerated for it- then you are as bad as any criminal…”
    He didn’t do it in an attempt to kill everyone in the place- whoever thinks that… well, that’s just silly.

  14. can you explain more what you mean?

  15. anonymouse told something which i can’t really understand.

    also i think this

    “If you seriously believe that anyone arrested for a crime (whether they did anything wrong or are actually guilty) should be tried and incarcerated for it- then you are as bad as any criminal…”

    is totally bullshit

  16. It is evident that educational standards have plummeted to discustingly low levels, when a even a moron can get a PHD.

  17. You`ve gotten my attention with this article, no doubt you peruse your logs like a paranoid, afraid your going to get penetrated like a t.v. in supermax. Im not even going to proxy anymore because Im not afraid of you or the feds you lay with. And if you have bothered A-googling lately, you know who I am, I gave you my adress, my whole doc. I certainly hope it has satisfied your apetite for information. But I think it is safe to say it has not. But, if I just came out and handed it over to you, you would not have appreciated it as much. Ahh yes, the enlightenment of Mcgrew. Well, if you would simply ask me a question, perhaps I would give you an answer that you wont find with google..

  18. “also i think this

    “If you seriously believe that anyone arrested for a crime (whether they did anything wrong or are actually guilty) should be tried and incarcerated for it- then you are as bad as any criminal…”

    is totally bullshit”

    So you’re saying everyone should just be arrested without having to go through the court system?
    Everyone is just guilty just because someone says so?
    Nope, everyone is guilty, there is no reason to even question it, look into the matter at all, or anything- just arrest everyone because if someone thinks you did anything it makes you a criminal.

    You’re an idiot for even thinking that…

  19. congrats on catching a script kiddie? idk what the masturbation is over

  20. sampson doesnt need to fap, he has bitches and hoes for that

  21. Das Licht,

    I am not sure if you have English as a second language, it might explain your confusion.

    your comment here:
    “If you seriously believe that anyone arrested for a crime (whether they did anything wrong or are actually guilty) should be tried and incarcerated for it- then you are as bad as any criminal…”

    Seems to imply that you think it’s not right to be tried and incarcerated for a crime ?
    Obviously that’s what the legal system is all about, if you commit a crime then you will be tried for it. Maybe you are not illustrating your point well enough because later you say :
    So you’re saying everyone should just be arrested without having to go through the court system?

    obviously two different meanings.

    With that said, I can see how you fail to realize that even if he “didn’t mean to hurt nobody”, that what he did was illegal, and presented the possibility that HE COULD hurt somebody. The HVAC system would have control over environmental conditions in blood storage or temperature critical equipment or patients. So no matter what his intentions are he presented a huge risk to the hospital…AND should be punished for that.

    Hats off to you Wesley, I will be reading your blog more often now as this has been a very entertaining and informative series :)

  22. XXxxImmortalxxXX (don’t forget all the X’s) flips burgers for a living. I think everyone here would agree that the only response to this is LOL. But seriously, flips burgers.

  23. oh well if it isnt Mr Fancy pants “IncursioExSubter” Oh wow, your knowledge of latin is so impressive, that only works on dumb bitches in the nightclubs after a few drinks , you fucking douchebag

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