Comments on: Book Review: Dissecting the Hack – The F0rb1dd3n Network http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/2009/10/12/book-review-dissecting-the-hack-the-f0rb1dd3n-network/ Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:44:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Amending my F0rb1dd3n Network Review « McGrew Security Blog http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/2009/10/12/book-review-dissecting-the-hack-the-f0rb1dd3n-network/#comment-784 Amending my F0rb1dd3n Network Review « McGrew Security Blog Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:02:35 +0000 http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/?p=623#comment-784 [...] am posting this as an amendment to my review of Jayson Street and Kent Nabor’s Dissecting the Hack: The F0rb1dd3n Network. It turns out [...] [...] am posting this as an amendment to my review of Jayson Street and Kent Nabor’s Dissecting the Hack: The F0rb1dd3n Network. It turns out [...]

]]> By: Wesley McGrew http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/2009/10/12/book-review-dissecting-the-hack-the-f0rb1dd3n-network/#comment-783 Wesley McGrew Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:38:25 +0000 http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/?p=623#comment-783 Without spoiling, I felt that instances where they were analyzing the packets sniffed and one of the characters analyzing the malware out of the saved network traffic were "hand-waving" moments. I didn't expect any more explanation in the story (even though it was more explicit about other attacks), but I did expect at least a reference and mention of some of the tools used for that kind of work in the STAR section, especially since there is so much in STAR that isn't referenced from the story. I too like the idea of hacker fiction. I did enjoy the story. I actually have way more of a problem with the STAR section of this book than the story. I'm hoping that the genre will evolve. Without spoiling, I felt that instances where they were analyzing the packets sniffed and one of the characters analyzing the malware out of the saved network traffic were “hand-waving” moments. I didn’t expect any more explanation in the story (even though it was more explicit about other attacks), but I did expect at least a reference and mention of some of the tools used for that kind of work in the STAR section, especially since there is so much in STAR that isn’t referenced from the story.

I too like the idea of hacker fiction. I did enjoy the story. I actually have way more of a problem with the STAR section of this book than the story. I’m hoping that the genre will evolve.

]]> By: LonerVamp http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/2009/10/12/book-review-dissecting-the-hack-the-f0rb1dd3n-network/#comment-782 LonerVamp Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:23:16 +0000 http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/?p=623#comment-782 Which parts did you think were hand-waving? It's hard to pick those parts out only because as a sec geek, I also tend to connect-the-dots quickly. For instance, I bet one of those moments was in the actual mechanics of the uploaded trojan. Maybe it might have been necessary to go into detail on in the actual story, but maybe not. You can find me out-of-band if you want, rather than posting back here in case they're spoiler-ridden. I am excited, though, as I think "hacker fiction" is a void, and those few blogs or books that fill that void seem to be eaten up (at least in our circles) quite hungrily. Whether they're geared towards teaching security lessons to laypersons or teaching security techniques to the geeks, they're quite desired. Which parts did you think were hand-waving? It’s hard to pick those parts out only because as a sec geek, I also tend to connect-the-dots quickly. For instance, I bet one of those moments was in the actual mechanics of the uploaded trojan. Maybe it might have been necessary to go into detail on in the actual story, but maybe not. You can find me out-of-band if you want, rather than posting back here in case they’re spoiler-ridden.

I am excited, though, as I think “hacker fiction” is a void, and those few blogs or books that fill that void seem to be eaten up (at least in our circles) quite hungrily. Whether they’re geared towards teaching security lessons to laypersons or teaching security techniques to the geeks, they’re quite desired.

]]> By: Chuks http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/2009/10/12/book-review-dissecting-the-hack-the-f0rb1dd3n-network/#comment-781 Chuks Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:49:38 +0000 http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/?p=623#comment-781 Am not sure what to say, but i just hope it is better than the STNs, though am still hoping to get a copy of the book soon. I think Jason tried coz not many pentesters would still have time to write such a book. Am not sure what to say, but i just hope it is better than the STNs, though am still hoping to get a copy of the book soon. I think Jason tried coz not many pentesters would still have time to write such a book.

]]> By: Andrew Waite http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/2009/10/12/book-review-dissecting-the-hack-the-f0rb1dd3n-network/#comment-780 Andrew Waite Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:51:11 +0000 http://www.mcgrewsecurity.com/?p=623#comment-780 Thanks for the review, I'm still looking forward to getting my hands on my copy of the book. Hopefully my expectations won't now be too high, enough that I won't be disappointed if it doesn't quite live up to original billing. --Andrew Waite Thanks for the review, I’m still looking forward to getting my hands on my copy of the book. Hopefully my expectations won’t now be too high, enough that I won’t be disappointed if it doesn’t quite live up to original billing.

–Andrew Waite

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